yes perhaps they were like Michael caine in cider house rules - but I doubt it joe. those kids were starved, and they were in an institution with bad track record.

nice nuns like the ones that you met in ireland are not a new thing. they've always been nice. they were nice to me when I was a kid. later in life I gigged their retirement homes - they were never less than lovely to me.

but I think you have to recognise that with presentnews from Tuam - you appear to these people as defending the indefensible. its like the war crimes in japan, after the war. innocent people are going to get hanged in the present climate. its unavoidable.

don't hurt yourself defending these men,