You both appear to be denying what the security services tell us.
Also journalists in Syria.
Also the chief of the Syria Free Army.
Also our government.

Cleg, deputy PM and leader of our most liberal and tolerant party said, (BBC yesterday) "The risk of Islamist Jihadists trained in Syria returning to the UK intent on violence was the "number one security issue" facing the government, he added."

"number one security issue" facing the government"