"Jack Straw, Ann Fryer, Alibhai Brown, Mohammed Sidiqui,"
None of whom made anything resembling the statement Keith has persistently claimed since his monumental foot-in-mouth - unless you are ably to produce such a statement,,, he hasn't?
All warned of the dangers of using such conclusions to promote racial and cultural hatred, yet this is exactly what Keith has done - so much is his declared respect for these people.
Straw made a point of suggesting that the crimes in question were perpetrated by "testosterone fizzing young men"; Keith carefully edited out this bit when he put Straw's statement up (I have little doubt he will now deny having done so, but it's there on the thread - follow the link)
All said that the behaviour of this small band of criminals could in no way be laid at the door of any ethnic or religious community - this has been the view of everybody involved, including the police, judiciary and particularly the researchers who surveyed the Muslim communities and produced a report of their findings - that there was no indication that the crimes were a cultural issue.
We are all surrounded by our culture to one level or another, we are not slaves to that culture - we accept or reject its aspects as we see fit.
The minuscule group of young Muslim men Keith was venting his cultural /racial hatred on, had in fact rejected some of the basic aspects of their culture regarding drinking alchohol and practicing sex outside of marriage - they were criminals who in many ways had embraced some of the worst aspects of Britain's own, indigenous culture.
We notice that the same has happened to a number of young Travellers when they became urbanised.
No authoritative body has ever made anything resembling Keith's all embracing and oven-filling pronouncement - not one.
You may regard him as a "good debater" - most of us recognise him as being the lying racist, ignoramous tosser that he undoubtably is.
"This attitude prevails in every thread, not just with Jim, but with the whole gang of supposed lefties"
This, from a declared "Marxist" who once wrote that the mass murderer Breivik was making points that were worth listening to - now that will cause me some sleepless nights!!
What a team eh - an educated Alf Garnett, a Les Dawson Wannabe and an out-of-work 'Little Britain' cast member - have you decided which one of you is Curly, and which, Larry and Moe?
Jim Carroll