I only asked what Catholic left meant Joe? It was a question, not a debate. It sounds a bit of an oxymoron, that's all.

My comment comparing membership of a religion with membership of an indoor pub sports league is an interesting analogy. To oppose and remain corporate at the same time takes some doing.

I suppose that the detail of how the regime starved babies and treated women as second class for having them needs further investigation. But for some on here to assume that as the detail of the septic tank scenario being somewhat inaccurate means those disgusted at the church and it's wicked ideas need to apologise for something?

Eight hours solid sleep each night. No problem.