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Thread #154376   Message #3637067
Posted By: Jim Carroll
27-Jun-14 - 09:14 AM
Thread Name: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
Subject: RE: BS: Islamic radicalism . . .
"Doing a fair bit of 'rejecting & ignoring' of your own"
I have rejected nothing Mike - no presented facts anyway - your irrational xenophobia doesn't count as fact, just irrational xenophobia.
I do not ignore the murder of Rigby - I do reject your cynically emotive use of the man's death to back up your hatred.
His death is one and the same as that of the householder who was kicked to death and set on fir by a bunch of racist thugs - you fail to comment on that - or any of the other deaths and racist attacks that have taken place and are continuing.
"your constant 'lip-service' cliché right back to you in your teeth!"
I don't go in for lip service - I condemn any form of terrorism - I realise it would be (once more) a waste of time my requesting that you qualify your extremely dishonest statement with an example.
I object to people like you using the acts of criminals to condemn and entire religion and community - you may not have the bottle to come out with it as blatantly as Keith, but you describe his blanket attacks as 'common sense' or some such approval.
These cultural generalisations are in no way different than those used by the Nazis to exterminate Jews
It is not me who should be ashamed of myself - you really need to take a long-hard look at your own position.
I ask again - what do you propose to do about 'the enemy within' as you have painted them?
Jim Carroll
Don't suppose you could spare a few of your crockodile tears for any of these?
RACIST MURDERS
ISLAMOPHOBIC INCIDENTS
United Kingdom[edit]
The English Defence League organises demonstrations against Islamism, but has been criticised for targeting Muslims in general.
As of early 2006, a video surfaced showing British soldiers beating Iraqi children on a compound.[58] In March 2006, Jamia Masjid mosque in Preston was attacked by gangs of white youths using brick and concrete block. The youths damaged a number of cars outside the mosque and stabbed a 16 year-old Muslim teenager.[59] On July 6, 2009, the Glasgow branch of Islamic Relief was badly damaged by a fire which police said was started deliberately, and which members of the Muslim community of Scotland allege was Islamophobic.[60]
In 2005, The Guardian commissioned an ICM poll which indicated an increase in anti-Muslim incidents, particularly after the London bombings in July 2005.[61][62] Another survey of Muslims, this by the Open Society Institute, found that of those polled 32% believed they had suffered religious discrimination at airports, and 80% said they had experienced Islamophobia.[63][64] In July 2005, a Muslim man, Kamal Raza Butt, was beaten to death outside a corner shop in Nottingham by a gang of youths who shouted anti-Islamic abuse at him.[65]
On the 26 August 2007 fans of the English football club Newcastle United directed anti-Muslim chants at Egyptian Middlesbrough F.C. striker Mido. An FA investigation was launched[66] He revealed his anger at The FA's investigation, believing that they would make no difference to any future abuse.[67] Two men were eventually arrested over the chanting and were due to appear at Teesside Magistrates Court.[68]
In January 2010, a report from the University of Exeter's European Muslim research centre noted that the number of anti-Muslim hate crimes has increased, ranging from "death threats and murder to persistent low-level assaults, such as spitting and name-calling," for which the media and politicians have been blamed with fueling anti-Muslim hatred. The Islamophobic incidents it described include: "Neil Lewington, a violent extremist nationalist convicted in July 2009 of a bomb plot; Terence Gavan, a violent extremist nationalist convicted in January 2010 of manufacturing nail bombs and other explosives, firearms and weapons; a gang attack in November 2009 on Muslim students at City University; the murder in September 2009 of Muslim pensioner, Ikram Syed ul-Haq; a serious assault in August 2007 on the Imam at London Central Mosque; and an arson attack in June 2009 on Greenwich Islamic Centre."[69][70] Other Islamophobic incidents mentioned in the report include "Yasir, a young Moroccan," being "nearly killed while waiting to take a bus from Willesden to Regent's Park in London" and "left in a coma for three months"; "Mohammed Kohelee," a "caretaker who suffered burns to his body while trying to prevent an arson attack against Greenwich Mosque"; "the murder" of "Tooting pensioner Ekram Haque" who "was brutally beaten to death in front of his three year old granddaughter" by a "race-hate" gang; and "police officers" being injured "during an English Defence League (EDL) march in Stoke."[71]
An academic paper by Katy Sian published in the journal South Asian Popular Culture in 2011 explored the question of how "forced conversion narratives" arose around the Sikh diaspora in the United Kingdom.[72] Sian, who reports that claims of conversion through courtship on campuses are widespread in the UK, says that rather than relying on actual evidence they primarily rest on the word of "a friend of a friend" or on personal anecdote. According to Sian, the narrative is similar to accusations of "white slavery" lodged against the Jewish community and foreigners to the UK and the US, with the former having ties to anti-semitism that mirror the Islamophobia betrayed by the modern narrative. Sian expanded on these views in 2013's Mistaken Identities, Forced Conversions, and Postcolonial Formations.[73]
In February 2011, a social club in North Wales was burned down in an arson attack. This came just weeks after Flintshire Muslim Cultural Society announced plans to open a mosque there.[74]
A number of attacks on Muslim buildings followed the May 2013 murder of Lee Rigby.