BL may have been on strike for a decent wage but the people "our fathers fought for" would have settled for a decent fucking car...

The nobs didn't fuck the country up. The knobs do try though. Both sides of the artificial divide. Luckily they aren't very successful. Society isn't any better or worse than before, and the austerity of post war UK makes the austerity of now seem to be something you'd rather not shout about.

Society is letting a hell of a lot of people down. Politicians can hinder rather than help that situation. But the arguments are all on the side of what to do with the money you spend on social infrastructure.

Go back a stage to how do you create that money in the first place and this chip on shoulder comparison argument goes out of the window. Any of us could propose how to turn life expectancy from 34 to 80 in many third world areas. But without wealth creation, the countries in question can't. Some actually won't. Same here. Every scheme to help society could be a success if the money was there.

Al mentions being a carer. Without family carers, social care would collapse. Take the army of unpaid carers out of the equation and you would need an extra few billion in residential care and domicillary care. You can't find that money and knock the wealth creators at the same time.

In terms of Scotland, as that particular part of The UK is in debate here, that means wealth creation to support the largest public sector per capita of the whole of The UK. Not easy without Westminster bailouts.