"the barbaric Islamic practices both of us find abhorrent, but one of the problems of discussing them at length is that there are those among us (not necessarily you - I would like not to think so) who will use them as proof of the degenerate nature of Muslim culture as a whole " - Jim Carroll

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No need to try to spare my feelings in this particular, Jim.   That is precisely what I think them proof of - for reasons which I have taken considerable pains to explicate at length at least 3 times on this forum: on the Unnamed Soldier thread on 10 Jun 13; and on the Islamic Radicalism thread on 12 Jun 13 & 14 Apr 14. They are there and accessible if you want to read my views as to the IMO mischievous nature & effects of this faith, due to its founder's teachings and the path it has followed since. I daresay I might once more get your "Can't be arsed" response; but if so, then don't take me to task for holding views whose reasons I have taken some trouble to exegesise, if not willing at least to remind yourself what they are.

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