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Thread #155221   Message #3650860
Posted By: Teribus
14-Aug-14 - 02:14 AM
Thread Name: BS: Last of the Yazidis
Subject: RE: BS: Last of the Yazidis
Ah [Qur'an] Jaysus - INDEED!!!!!

First google entry and you should have looked, read, analysed what was being said - If you had you would have discovered that your little Cut'n'paste supports precisely what I said:

Opinion Research Business (ORB) poll conducted August 12–19, 2007, ESTIMATED 1,033,000 violent deaths due to the Iraq War. The range given was 946,000 to 1,120,000 deaths. A nationally representative sample of approximately 2,000 Iraqi adults answered whether any members of their household (living under their roof) were killed due to the Iraq War.

An estimate []Qur'an] is exactly that - an estimate - it is not a hard and fast number - the number of people who died at any particular incident is - the number of people who die in hospital is an actual number not an estimate - the number of people who are buried is an actual number not an estimate.

A batch sample - you ask 2,000 people from a country with a population of of 30 million then transpose their answers to reflect it as though that was applicable right across the board - how f**kin' stupid can you get.

Iraq Body Count give two figures a low and a high, they then add what they call the Wikileaks factor which IIRC is around 13,000. The low figure comes from instances where people have died and that death can be verified and has been confirmed by two independent sources. The high is where people have died and that death can only be verified and confirmed by one independent source.

ORB and the John Hopkins Study (It was only reported in The Lancet - and you have the gall to criticise my research you Muppet) have both been comprehensively dismissed as being wildly inaccurate and both were timed for publication with the sole intent of influencing the elections in the USA - Ask George Soros he paid for and orchestrated the John Hopkins one - the study that refused to submit its data or its questions for critical peer review - the man actually in charge of the project was subsequently dismissed.

Now then were these 946,000 to 1,120,000 violent deaths all executions? Because for those numbers to be true they would have to be wouldn't they? Because if these 946,000 to 1,120,000 violent deaths were caused as a result of combat operations ("Collateral Damage is the popular phrase isn't it?) then what are the numbers of wounded and more importantly where were they treated - You see Stevie old son there are no records of them and as the ratio of wounded to killed in a straightforward combat scenario (Armed forces fighting one another) is normally 3:1 then for your average 1,033,000 dead you would have 3,099,000 wounded some of whom might just have needed an "elastoplast" and an asprin but most would not (particularly if bullets and bombs were the culprits). But we are talking about civilian casualties here aren't we - not straightforward combat casulaties - SO the ratios of wounded to killed in urban terrorist attacks is more in the order of 17:1 (According to Hamas - In Northern Ireland it was 11:1) So Stevie we are now looking at 1,033,000 dead and anything from 11,363,000 to 17,561,000 wounded - That Stevie represents 41.2% to 61.9% of the entire population of Iraq either killed or wounded - now rationally and logically I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT HAVE NOTICED THAT - Damned odd that they didn't eh? Which leads me to believe the figures given by Iraq's Ministry of Health, Ministry of the Interior, various NGOs and IBC.

So I will ask you again 946,000 to 1,120,000 deaths - PROVE IT