Well... Gibb did protest a bit....ummm... intensely, but boiled down, he simply made some of the points I have made in the past about America bashing- especially when threads are started with the sole purpose of pointing a finger at some aspect of the US that we (most of us) already are quite aware of.

We KNOW guns are a problem here. We KNOW there are embedded cultural, legal, constitutional and practical barriers to sensible changes which would benefit us all. We also know that sarcastic, superior and basically useless explication of our flaws, with no attempt at friendly, helpful suggestions, are not going to cheer us up or inspire us.

The problems ARE deeply embedded in a Catch-22 situation of interpretations of the 2nd Amendment coupled with the complex requirements to change that amendment and the full force of hundreds of millions of $$$$$ groups like the NRA are willing to spend to lie, distort, and frankly, BUY a continuation of the status quo!

I... and many others.. do everything we can to effect rational changes. But all those forces are entrenched in interlocked ways to defy rationality, we get weary..... and then someone else starts a Mudcat thread pointing to something we not only know, but have just been writing our congressman about or voting to get rid of him for supporting the idiocy of most gun laws.

I am reminded of an old sign I saw:

"If things don't improve soon, I may have to ask you to stop helping me!"