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Thread #155297   Message #3655544
Posted By: GUEST
31-Aug-14 - 11:16 AM
Thread Name: BS: Anyone defend US gun law?
Subject: RE: BS: Anyone defend US gun law?
I think there is a serious risk the American attitude of My Country Right or Wrong could cause civil war in the UK, now the FBI is helping in Heathrow. True, we saw a first step in allowing the French to run their border controls at St Pancras for Eurostar, but none the less.
The point is that in the UK, we neither love nor trust our police and security services, not least as a direct consequence of the incessant spin telling us that we do. There is nothing more guaranteed to make a Brit question what's going on than telling him what he has to think or believe, something which has not yet penetrated the noddles of our politicians. On occasion, we respect our armed forces, but as guarantors of the peoples freedom and not as our rulers. The Army first overthrew Parliament in 1648, might have done so again in 1848 (special political measures were undetaken), 1919 (Spanish Flu blocked it) and did for certain in 1945, in General Election. The aftermath of that rumbles on in the South Yorkshire child abuse case, where people complaining were fankily not only given the bum's rush, but gagged and discredited into the bargain, and in the King case, where a British citizen has ended up under arrest without breaking the Law, simply because he disagreed with the NHS - a clear breach of Article 5 of the Convention on Human Rights and Articles 1, 3, 6, 7, 9, 10, 45 of the Charter of Fundamental Rights.

By contrast, OldDude considers the population are a form of militia, right behind the Armed Forces. He may be, but many aren't, even in the US: if they were, better provision would be made for the Veterans Administration, which cares for those who have paid the butcher's bill the hard way. Worse, organisations like Homeland Security (and how oxymoronic that last word is, Insecurity more like) trade in it, demolishing the reputation of their country elsewhere. He just doesn't get how seriously we disagree with that fundamental Might Is Right approach, because it plays straight into the hands of the less reputable business interests of the US. As it is, there is now, I think, every likelihood of a Labour government being elected in nine months time, as people have had enough of the economy recovering but the population still being made to suffer. If we're damned if we do and are damned if we don't, then we might as well go down with people doing something to help rather than hinder.