Yeah, you tell them there Christians to behave more like pete! No room for secular science eh Jack?

Damn right! We owe the current enlightenment to the work of scientific objectivism Carl Sagan describes as A Candle in the Dark. I meet too many Christians who want their cake and eat it - i.e. expect their God 'n' Son soap-myth to fit into the wonders of Atheist Cosmology from which they were ousted by Ionian Philosophers hundreds of years before e'er Jesus blathered his platitudes on Mounts and Plains.

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well thankyou jack, I believe you are not sympathetic to creation, so very fair of you.

I'm not sympathetic to Creationism or Religion, but I am as sympathetic to Christian Individuals to any sufferer of psychosis - as long they don't feel that anything they believe applies to ANYONE else other than themselves. That said, I feel Christians ought to fly their true colours. If they can believe in any sort of God or Supernatural dimension, or that there is any currency whatsoever in Religion, then why not accept the rest of it as integral to that faith?

That said, I'd make it a criminal offence for Christians to proselytize in any public context or have any say whatsoever in matters of education, even of their own children.