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Thread #155357   Message #3658730
Posted By: Jim Carroll
09-Sep-14 - 11:00 AM
Thread Name: What makes a new song a folk song?
Subject: RE: What makes a new song a folk song?
"preferring their librarian approach"
Singer - club organizer and audience member for thirty to forty years, as well as stepping through the folkie air-lock to find and interview some of those "old codgers with their waistbands up to their armpits" and ask them what they thought of the songs they sang and how they rated next to those from Nashville and Tin-Pan-Alley
Spent a fair amount of that time trying to pass on the songs and information to others so they would get the same amount of enjoyment and encouragement from it as I have.
What did you do in the war Muskie?
MacColl's committment to folk songs and those he believed made them went far beyong his part in the entertainment Trade" which he could have become quite wealthy on had ho been prepared to sell out.
"No, Jim, not you."
Sorry lighter - I was joining you in search of a reply to your question, not in any way opposing it.
Al
"blackleg miner."
Not sure what your point is on this one.
I don't know enough about the song to say whether it came from the British mines or whether is was adapted from the Cape Breton 'Yahi Miner, but I do know it has far more claim to belonging to the mining industry than anything by Leiber and Stoller or Otis Blackwell, or any other song now being passed off as "folk" in many of the clubs.
On MacColl's 70th he was presented with two miners lamps from different national officials of the N.M.U.
He treasured them both and carefully placed them next to the one he was awarded for 'The Big Hewer' in the early 1960s.
Around the same time as his 70th celebrations, he wa part of a fund raising concert for the Miners Strike at the London Festival Hall- he was as proud to sit on the platform next to a crowd of strikers representatives as they appeared to be to sit next to him and Peggy.
They all joined in the chorus of 'Blackleg Miners' lustily, along with MacColl's own, 'What Did You Do in the Strike' - the foot-stamping nearly brought the roof in
Great moment or what?
Jim Carroll