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Thread #155357   Message #3659317
Posted By: Jim Carroll
11-Sep-14 - 09:37 AM
Thread Name: What makes a new song a folk song?
Subject: RE: What makes a new song a folk song?
" I've been asking you with no satisfactory response. "
I've responded through these discussion - that you find them unsatisfactory is unfortunate.
I expect to here the songs I have been listening to for the last half century alongside new songs created using the forms used to create the songs I have become used to.
I should be able to select the music I hear by what it sounds like, not by what somebody chooses to call it, whatever it might sound like.
Your following point should have been answered by what I have just written.
My impression of what is happening today came from a quick thumb through was is on offer today - much reduced, very little tradition-based and including everything I wrote.
Yes - Walter Pardon did sing music-hall songs - and parlour ballads and early 20th century pop songs, but never (in my hearing) in a folk club and whenever we broached the subject, he filled tape after tape explaining the difference between the songs he sang - I've put some of what he had to say up on this forum and I'm happy to send anybody a copy of the article Pat and I wrote on how Walter regarded his songs ("Walter Pardon, A Simple Countryman? ((question mark essential)).
"How hard did you look? "
Hard enough - now and the last time we visited London.
I understood that Court Sessions closed when Dave East fell ill - would be delighted to know this is not the case.
"Why let the facts get in the way"
Unnecessary Brian, though I doubt if you'll have the Mudcat stalker on your back for being insulting!
I made a mistake - my apologies.
I've always believed your club to be worthy of respect - it's you own expressed attitude that has undermined that opinion
Jim Carroll
"(Who the $*!&# are Leiber and Stoller or Otis Blackwell?)"
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