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Thread #155357 Message #3659317
Posted By: Jim Carroll
11-Sep-14 - 09:37 AM
Thread Name: What makes a new song a folk song?
Subject: RE: What makes a new song a folk song?
" I've been asking you with no satisfactory response. " I've responded through these discussion - that you find them unsatisfactory is unfortunate. I expect to here the songs I have been listening to for the last half century alongside new songs created using the forms used to create the songs I have become used to. I should be able to select the music I hear by what it sounds like, not by what somebody chooses to call it, whatever it might sound like. Your following point should have been answered by what I have just written. My impression of what is happening today came from a quick thumb through was is on offer today - much reduced, very little tradition-based and including everything I wrote. Yes - Walter Pardon did sing music-hall songs - and parlour ballads and early 20th century pop songs, but never (in my hearing) in a folk club and whenever we broached the subject, he filled tape after tape explaining the difference between the songs he sang - I've put some of what he had to say up on this forum and I'm happy to send anybody a copy of the article Pat and I wrote on how Walter regarded his songs ("Walter Pardon, A Simple Countryman? ((question mark essential)). "How hard did you look? " Hard enough - now and the last time we visited London. I understood that Court Sessions closed when Dave East fell ill - would be delighted to know this is not the case. "Why let the facts get in the way" Unnecessary Brian, though I doubt if you'll have the Mudcat stalker on your back for being insulting! I made a mistake - my apologies. I've always believed your club to be worthy of respect - it's you own expressed attitude that has undermined that opinion Jim Carroll "(Who the $*! are Leiber and Stoller or Otis Blackwell?)" Elvis's source of material - look 'em up