I can understand indifference... there are plenty of things in the world that facinate some and leave me quite cold...

but pete is not indifferent, he is fearful... fearful of what I regard as part of the beauty of the universe. Some find joy in equations, others in how different aspects of the universe work... but there seems to always be those who find fear instead of facination. Who not only want to run and hide, but work to deny others their joy. Why is that?

As I said earlier... science builds on trust. There are people of faith who also possess that trust. Pete is not one of those people. He has his faith and has demonstrated no ability to place any trust in those who do not accept what he accepts on faith. He gives lip service to me and others on our education and training, but then refuses to trust what we tell him. Because we are in error - at least, to him we are- by simply disagreeing with him and his beliefs.   

And Pete, you are lying to yourself when you say that you want to save me or any of the rest of us. You only care about yourself and make these absurd comments to reassure yourself that your blind faith will assure your own salvation. I truly believe this because of the smug attitude I find in your posts. There is nothing humble about your belief or your inability to even try to understand our position and what we are saying. That is why there is no hope of a meaningful dialog with you and why there is unlikely to be such in the future.