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Thread #155357   Message #3660856
Posted By: TheSnail
16-Sep-14 - 01:23 PM
Thread Name: What makes a new song a folk song?
Subject: RE: What makes a new song a folk song?
A while ago Steve Gardham said You're wasting your time repeating this over and over. It will never sink in! with reference to trying to get the message through to Jim. True in a way but it does still serve a purpose.

I used to work in IT and a colleague told me of one office where he worked where they had a giant soft toy stuffed rabbit sitting in a corner. If you got stuck on a problem, rather than wasting anybody else's time, you would go and explain the problem to the rabbit. By the very act of explaining the problem you would, very often, find the solution on your own. Jim is our Stuffed Rabbit. He doesn't actually listen to a word you say but helps to clarify your own thoughts.

Bearing that in mind -

Jim Carroll
I asked if, as I punter, I have a right to choose the type of music - it seems I haven't
Yes you have Jim you just can't do it on the basis of a club using Folk in its name. Quite a few clubs that don't follow your definition (whatever that is, it still isn't clear) do and have done for a long time. I'm not saying I approve of that. I'm not saying I disapprove of it. I am just saying it is so. There is nothing you or I can do to change that. Nobody owns the copyright on the word "folk". You said yourself "Many clubs were "not to my taste" in the old days, but we managed to co-exist comfortably." That was my experience as well. Why did it become a problem for you? You just have to read a bit further down the label.

"Bryan, for all his aggressive blustering, [Ya gorra larf.] is remarkably reticent when it comes to putting his money where his mouth is" Does anybody else have clue what he is on about there? If you're going to be insulting, Jim, at least try and be comprehensible.

No new definition - just "it is what i say it is because I say so".
In what way is that any different from "corresponded to what I thought folk song sounded like"?