no justin doesn't gig English pubs. if one of his songs were usable, i'd use it with English folk, and my experience of gigging English folk clubs for fifty years would transform it into folk music. cos i'm an English folksinger - using the techniques and learned over fifty years.

Fred Jordan no doubt did something somewhat similar in his lifetime. However he has been dead a middling number of years. He lived in a different era and led a different sort of life. and his gig , as I recall, was somewhat different.

No offence was intended. if people didn't get pissed off with Fred Jordan's repertoire no doubt, I would have got all the room up dancing last night to Ship in Distress - but ever the pragmatist, Ididn't attempt that.

circular argument. I have just disappeared up my own jaxie