mmmmmm, er, yes, the answer, I think, lies in the quality of the performers, Roland at the Black Swan, York, is pretty tough and direct and manages very well. To get bums on seats one has to put a decent show on week in week out or turn it into a sing around or session with no paid guests and quite rightly everyone regardless of talent or expertise gets a go, it is very important that the genre remains inclusive but to get an audience one has to appeal to a wider section of society, I think most people are like myself, have quite an eclectic mix of musical tastes, a penchant for live music rather than recorded music, but if am listening I do like it played well.