well if someone who won't listen to you decides you are untalented SP, and you are willing to accept their verdict. its a bit of a gutless response to a bully.

as for Bellamy's remark that we are running nothing clubs - well there you have the effrontery and arrogance of every traddie fundamentalist.

the fact is that the reason folk clubs mushroomed in 1960's was down to four names - none of them English - Baez, Dylan, Seeger and Donovan.

the mushrooming is what gave Carthy, Bellamy, Fairport, Steeleye etc. the chance to make a living initially. The folk boom didn't happen because of MacColl, Walter Pardon, or Sam Larner. And it soon bloody stopped when the people turned up to find gangs of people who wanted to perform their songs. well it was easy to blame the yanks with their superficial flashy guitar skills, nicking traditional tunes, and phoney voices. Even easier to stand up - not having bothered to learn the guitar.

And now the music which filled the folk clubs and inspired a generation to get up and do it - according to these wiseacres, its not even allowed to regard itself as folk music, not allowed to call itself folk music.

Some neck......