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Thread #154975   Message #3665368
Posted By: GUEST,donuel needs a cookie
02-Oct-14 - 12:42 PM
Thread Name: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
Subject: RE: BS: Anybody else watching Ebola break out?
I think we are all on board the ship that will not allow rational fear or irrational conspiracy theory to sink our spirit or live in panic mode that would cause us to make bad choices.

I am not a Johnny come lately on this subject nor am I a professional epidemiologist.

The four ongoing concerns are:


1 Treatment and emerging cures.

2 Where is Ebola in humans and animals today?

3 Best and worst case scenarios

4 Social and Economic effects caused by Ebola


The issues of who caused this, who will prosper from this and who will who will suffer intentionally are in my opinion conspiracy theories that will not help anyone.

My opinion on how and why is economic. The US has not even paid all their dues to the World Health Organization. Back in April was the time we could have invested half a million dollars to end the outbreak.

In May for the price a rich person spends on restoring a 57 Chevy Belaire, we could have stopped the epidemic.

By August the money a wealthy person spends to restore a classic car could have supplied the infrastructure and supplies to stop the outbreak.

By September a well organized Army could have slowed the epidemic to a controllable level.

We are at a stage now that as little as 3 carriers could inflict pandemic effects upon our nation.

It was the LACK of money that allowed this plague to get a foothold.
Drug companies do not invest in R&D for tropical diseases. It is up to the Government. But the Government has been struck with a Sequestration that has crippled everyone in the Government from the Secret Service to CDC.

If you think a republican Congressman understands the gravity of the work the NIH and CDC does, you are mistaken.


So I will limit my contribution to
1 Treatment and emerging cures.

2 Where is Ebola in humans and animals today?

3 Best and worst case scenarios

4 Social & Market effects




OCT 2 2014
1 (((( We are doing vaccine trials. We have tried about a dozen times so far. We have a couple anti viral serums we are very hopeful about. It may have helped half the people who returned to the US for treatment so far to survive but we are not sure yet. Treatment is palliative and a strong push of fluids. Part of treatment should be quarantine after flights. Hell they quarantine fruits and Bonsai trees until they die or become inedible but we don't have routine quarantine for people yet.

2 (((( Ebola victims are currently confirmed in the US, Spain, Saudi Arabia, Guinea, Sierra Leone, Liberia and Nigeria. The animals such as African bats and Bonobo monkeys have tested positive but the bigger threat is the importation of African bush meat to every cultural mom and pop market across the US and many other countries thus infecting people in their own neighborhoods.

3 (((( The best case scenario for the one and only US Ebola victim is not to have infected anyone while he was sick with symptoms of nearly 5 days.
For every victim the likely infection rate is 2 more people infected. If a priest for example giving communion infected all the wafers from a cut on his fingers the rate of infection would be of course much more. Transmission is not guaranteed.
It will take about a year for all transmission to be stopped in the best case. In the worst case it will go around the world in 3 waves and burn out after killing over 3 billion people. If/when the Ebola virus mutates it could lose its fatal characteristics or become airborne and become worse for humans.

4(((( The news of Dallas exposure to Ebola could have stock market effects but it can not be proved. So far all goods and services are unaffected in the US but is disrupted in All but Nigeria in Africa.



Conspiracy theories that make the epidemic worse are:
The government wants our blood
Its all to make big Pharma richer
They are lying about Ebola not being air born.
They have a cure but will only give it to the rich.



The above current observations are subject to change.
Best case is it gets better in 6 months, worst case the death toll toll reaches 1.2 million people principally in Africa. If it hits Hong Kong Cairo or Mexico City before Christmas...game over since infrastructures will worsen all responses to the epidemic and become a true pandemic.