If you mean traditional song, say so. It is within the folk genre, but isn't the folk genre itself. If it were, what would you do with all the folk songs that don't fit that category?

I think everyone on this thread - including Jim - is well aware that the word folk is currently used to mean something much wider than traditional song. We know that's how things are. What some of us are saying is that it's a bad thing.

You just seem to be saying that the way things are is a good thing because it's the way things are. I know folkies are supposed to be conservative, but that's ridiculous.