> going into college level might well lose me, and so you have to again use the argument from authority.

Sorry, Pete, but your glib refusal to familiarize yourself with science and scientists on the basis that you are incapable of understanding it, does not reduce the rest of us to "arguing from authority."

"Argument from authority" means basing an argument on supposed expert opinion (including one's own) *while providing no good evidence to back it up.* Many of us have provided you with considerable evidence from world-recognized experts. You may choose to ignore it if you wish, just as you ignore some of our questions to you, but that doesn't make us gullible fools "arguing from authority."

A refusal to look at substantive evidence for evolution as presented even at the college level (in other words, in a form graspable even by nineteen- or twenty-year-olds) does, however, reduce the debater to "arguing from ignorance."

Much of this thread just begs for transactional analysis - another subject taught at the college level in easily understandable form.