Joe. Who is holding to a truth? I may be thick but even I know that scientific discovery relies on observing and deducing.

In other words, tomorrow somebody might say something that makes sense but contradicts present conclusions and lots of what you and pete call "evolutionist dogma" will disappear perhaps. Unlikely, because the changes that come through evolution are strengthened by each and every piece of research. But let's just assume.

And yet, despite said discovery also burying biblical dogma even further, pete will still stick to his creationism, you will wonder how the bible helps explain the recent findings and the rest of us? We will have discarded whatever is seen to be lacking.

Doesn't sound like a Jehovas Witness approach to me. Seems more like dismay that children are being taught creationist nonsense as an alternative to reality.

Or child abuse, as decent society calls it.