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Thread #155384   Message #3666252
Posted By: Lighter
05-Oct-14 - 08:56 AM
Thread Name: BS: Special thread on Evolution & religion
Subject: RE: BS: Special thread on Evolution & religion
Joe, ever hear of the "Theory" of Relativity?

It's been confirmed again and again. And never seriously controverted.

So why is it still "just a theory"?

In large part because a hundred years of habit have made people used to talking about "the theory of relativity" instead of plain "relativity."

At a more sophisticated level, it's still a "theory" because there are loose ends that have not yet been definitively tied up: most notably how it ties in with quantum mechanics.

Einstein's "theory" doesn't mean Einstein was just making up some wild idea. Relativity, like evolution over eons, is a fact: exactly how it might be explained is not yet entirely clear.

It's Pete virtually alone who keeps this thread going. If he were tired of the subject, he'd quit posting and it would fade away.
He keeps insisting, however, that he wants to understand the "erroneous" acceptance of evolution and point out its alleged fatal flaws.

Yet he shows no inclination to consider the numerous logical fallacies in his own "arguments." Getting those straight is fundamental to any understanding of *any* topic, but when we point them out, he glosses them over. I no longer believe he has any serious intention, ever, of first understanding evolution (so that, in theory, he could probe for any "real" weaknesses, so there's no further point in responding to his posts.

The last straw was his calm assertion that though understanding even an introductory college course would be beyond him, his natural-science wisdom surpasses that of generations of professional scientists, whom he paints as a conglomeration of liars and fools.

Name one prominent scientist of the last 150 years who now looks like a "stodgy conservative." Perhaps you're thinking of the unscientific inquisitors who threatened to torture the scientist Galileo for discovering something new and important.

At worst, those "stodgy conservatives" look like scrupulous, hard-working practitioners who did not have all the relevant facts, but were eager to keep on discovering.

Creationists believe they do have all the relevant facts and do not wish to be confused by more.