I concede, Lighter, that it wouldn't be fair to put the "stodgy conservative" on the thinkers who came up with truly groundbreaking ideas like the Theory of Evolution and the Theory of Relativity. At any time in history, their thoughts would be original and innovative. But there are many hangers-on who codify the words of the thinkers into Truth with a capital "T," never to be changed or built upon. Like Mr. Shaw, for example, who can't accept that the 1859 writings of Darwin are now "primitive."

"Pig-ignorance" and "Christian Fascism."

Allow me to quote that great philosopher, Abby Sale:

Damn their eyes! Bloody hell! Shit!

Oh, and as far as I know, Big Mick and I are the only moderators who claim to be Christian. And we have very little to do with deletion of posts nowadays.

[I as a moderator who can see the entire history of the thread, can see21 deleted posts. None of them are by Steve Shaw]