"Perhaps some of the more critical members on this thread could point us to online examples of their performances so that we can see what level we should be aspiring to."
Not in a position to do this, but I dn't feel it is necessary anyway - surely anybody knows when a singer is constantly out of tune or cannot sing without a crib sheet - it really is as simple as that, the ability to give forth articulately and in tune - nothing more
You might hope that all siners seek to improve themselves, but that is no part of this discussion
Jim Carroll