"That meant both of them. You are arguing from authority. When that authority is a combination of one known liar and one known near-imbecile, well, like I said, not impressive."

Awwww Stevie, did you really think that it was all down to one known liar and one near-imbecile"? Are you really that clueless? Or are you trying to tell us that the administrations of one Democrat President of the United States of America and one Republican President of the United States of America plus all their advisers were all idiots and liars? Sometimes Steve with the crap you come out with I honestly think you haven't got a clue as to which way is up. Remembering of course my first contribution to this thread was supporting the statement made that it would not have mattered who had won the 2000 Presidential election in the USA, things would have happened pretty much the way that they did. As far as Iraq goes both Clinton and Bush were advised on the situation by exactly the same people, I do not believe for one nano-second that either were involved with evaluation or analysis process and after 9/11 the Head of State was told the situation, told exactly what the threat to the nation was and advised on what options were open along with the caveat - Sir we have to do something about this, this must be resolved, in the light of what has happened doing nothing is simply not an option.

In acting as he did in 2001 and in 2003 George W. Bush succeeded in the following:

- Iran's secret nuclear weapons programme was crash stopped and two secret uranium enrichment facilities that IAEA had no idea of were uncovered.
- Libya unilaterally renounced WMD and a secret nuclear weapons programme was exposed and shut down.
- The illegal nuclear weapons proliferation network of Pakistani Dr. A.Q.Khan was exposed and shut down
- A secret nuclear weapons programme involving Syria and North Korea was discovered and destroyed by the Israelis with the help and assistance of the Turkish Government
- By the time Saddam was toppled there was not one single viable candidate nation prepared or willing to play the role of "Rogue State" anywhere on the planet.

So was GWB right in acting as he did - Damn right he was, no other choice.