The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #156666   Message #3697580
Posted By: Steve Shaw
27-Mar-15 - 09:58 AM
Thread Name: BS: BBC v. Jeremy Clarkson.
Subject: RE: BS: BBC v. Jeremy Clarkson.
Steve, I understand evolution (and also physics) at least as well as you, and WW1 history rather better.
Care to challenge that by quoting me?
I think not.

It is a fact that most Christians accept evolution while believing in a creator God.
You are wrong in your assumptions, preconceptions and prejudices.


This post is just a pile of unsupported assertions. At least I did you the honour of explaining my point of view. Now, Keith, it's perfectly clear that whatever understanding you have of evolution is shaky. If you're telling me that your creator God created inanimate matter but has had nothing to do with the origin and evolution of life on Earth, that would be one thing, but it would sound a little as though you were rewriting God. The thing is, you can't even say that God put the stuff in place then let evolution get on with it. The concept of an intelligent driving force involved anywhere in the process is completely at odds with the crucial notions that evolution has no planned trajectory, no goals, no endpoint and no striving (for perfection or otherwise). Tangentially, I suspect that God wouldn't be too happy about the mistakes, the flaws, the evolutionary dead ends and the vast over-production of offspring with its concomitant mass death and disease, essential to evolution. Now you can rewrite God if you like to keep him out of it (please yourself, I'm not bothered), or you can rewrite evolutionary theory (careful now...). But you can't have it both ways. I actually applaud Christians who do want it both ways, because at least they're not brainless fundamentalists like pete, but, sadly, their argument is, er, fundamentally flawed.