Oh but Raggy if they are personally and gratuitously abusive to those who do not deserve such treatment [e.g. MGM.Lion<7i>] then deserve to be paid back in kind - if they want to dish it out, then they had best be prepared to receive it. One way to halt it is for them to cease and desist. Also Raggy if they accuse anybody of doing something then they had best provide some evidence to back up the accusation and should that accused person be me then I will prod and goad them until they squeal and run, or alternatively come up with the said evidence, but both you and I know that that is never going to happen.