"Back to the Bible" - well, there is a fair bit of name-calling, etc., around here at times, but, if we're having a discussion, and someone makes an assertion that appears to need challenging, what is one to do? I didn't shout at pete (this time); I merely asked him to support his statement Jesus clearly defined marriage as one man and one women [sic]. It's hardly surprising that the Bible gets invoked in this topic, and your kneejerk is unwarranted.