The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #157281   Message #3712451
Posted By: Jim Carroll
28-May-15 - 06:01 AM
Thread Name: BS: All changed, changed utterly.
Subject: RE: BS: All changed, changed utterly.
These are your statements Joe - no withdrawal or qualification, just reiteration.
"Would the same principle require me to make a cake praising neo-Nazis if a customer ordered it?"
"I try to think about how I would react if I were forced to do something I considered offensive - like doing something in support of neo-Nazism. I would suppose the baker reacted similarly to being forced to support gay marriage."
"be assured that my contrasting of the two issues was intentional. But I do support gay rights, and I do not support neo-Nazism - that's the point."
You took an example of a regime that carried out the deliberate mass murder of many millions of people and put that next to what is, in fact the natural condition of being of a significant minority of human beings   
By comparing the two, you are putting them both in the same bracket as far as I'm concerned and it is this that I and others found unacceptable.
It is totally immaterial that you support one and abhor the other - such comparisons are offensive, particularly in the light of the stance taken by the church on homosexuality.
Sorry Joe - no apology necessary, as far as I'm concerned
I grew up surrounded by the idea that homosexuality was not only "unnatural", but that it was "intrinsically evil and a mortal sin", therefore punishable by eternal damnation - a natural condition condemned in the strongest terms by your church.
That remains the case, to my knowledge.
A leading figure in the Vatican has described the result of the vote as "a defeat for humanity".
Tahat this statement has the support of the upper echelons of The Vatican has been confirmed in this mornings papers.
Jim Carroll