DtG before you go off pin head dancing again I asked Jim a question I was not talking about 2000 years ago I was talking about the hear and now and the last two generations, we are talking about the British Isles. And between Jim Carroll's answer and PFR's answer I think that it is understood that the template used for basing what is considered "good/bad/right/wrong/acceptable/unacceptable" has been the teaching and ethics of the "Christian religion" - in it's evolution "Protestantism" taught us to constantly challenge and question.