" is there any chance of negotiating with them, of establishing any sort of peaceful relationship with them?"
Some peopel Joe - but we seem to have an abudance of non-negotiables here - a prime example above.
"Winning battles isn't all it's cracked up to be"
Don't know if you're referring to me - not on my agenda - I leave that to those who keep claiming to have "won" something - easily checked.
"the proposed change is presented reasonably and diplomatically."
They've taken a long time in coming - homosexuality was a crime up to the nineties, and your church still refuses to accept it.
Once more you chose to distort my position, despite my having stated my case innumerable times
ONE MORE TIME - I do not hate Christianity - in many ways, I find it quite attractive when approached as a philosophy.
What I "hate" is a church that has has used the position it holds to abuse, persecute and dominate its own flock - still happening in the case of Gays
It's more than a little dishonest to hide behind religion to defend abuses that are so well-known and accepted that they have all but toppled the Church from the position it once held
You put that down to Christianity if you wish - I don't.
" give it a break, you dogmatic dodo"
I don't know who you think you are Dick, but can I remind you you that you've had your arse kicked off one forum for your ill-mannered behaviour and the way you're going, you'll end up the same here - learn how to address people and if you have a point, make it - don't you dare attempt to psychoananlyse me.
Jim Carroll