I have indeed been doing things that normal people do on fine bright Sunday:-) You really are scraping the barrel now, Teribus. As I am sure you know that post was illustrating the point about mocking people. On top of which I did indeed have that deep rooted belief. You seem to have missed the point that it is no longer deep rooted. Keith's points were indeed food for thought which is why I never disputed them. What is it with the selective memories of you guys?