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Thread #157421   Message #3716878
Posted By: Bill D
15-Jun-15 - 10:54 PM
Thread Name: BS: Unfit for SCOTUS
Subject: RE: BS: Unfit for SCOTUS
Pete..."Bill, whose freedom to choose....certainly not the child in the womb ?"

**Child** is a loaded word until about the 20th week of pregnancy. Before that it is a zygote, then a fetus. Even then a fetus needs to be over about 24 weeks to have a 50-50 chance of survival. The statistics are available for everyone, but people differ about the relevance of them.
If one 'believes' that a zygote receives a 'soul' at conception, they treat abortion one way, if the believe that only a child after birth receives a soul, they see it differently, and if they do not think that 'soul' applies to anyone, it is entirely a different matter.

In any case, 'choice' is not something relevant an unborn of any stage. People of different cultures have treated the choice that parents & other adults make in many ways. Like all subjective issues, opinions differ.
We can agree that abortion is not a happy solution to a problem, but neither is war.. or theft.. or lying. Different problems require adjustment of one's moral guide. If you wish to say 'no' to ALL abortions, you severely limit choice about important issues. Even so, those who DO have religious objections to abortion should be allowed to follow those beliefs... in their own case! It is like other subjective views, religious & otherwise, it is personal and should not be decided by clergy, community, friends, or media. It is something for the parents.. especially the woman... to decide.
We have fairly good birth control to help avoid the problem...(except for genetic problems, rape, incest...etc.) but the issue will ALWAYS be there, and no one can design one single rule to cover everything. 25 years ago, *I* had to help make the decision when a planned pregnancy was determined to be not viable. It was about the saddest thing I can imagine, but there was no way around it. You might ask God why such things happen. I just treat it as bad luck. Such things happen to good Christians, good atheists and good agnostics. The decision is for each one to make.