chantylass...was it you who mentioned roger williams of rhode island..i am descended from one...all names match up except perhaps his wife..will have to check. born 1602 i think came to rhode island 1636....williams are so confusing in my tree...a williams married a williams not too long ago and their trees combine at some point..then another one farther back and one way way back. not as bad as the stewarts though.