"Mr Carroll tells us that the deaths under Stalin were down to"
I don't ptell anybody any such thing Mr Teribus - I point out that the evidence of intent is shrouded in Cold-War rhetoric - it might well have been deliberate, but it could just as well have been incompetent mishandling of collectivization and industrialisation.
I am no Stalin supporter, but at the same time, I'm not prepared to draw my conclusions on the word of nations who sent Europe's youth to their deaths in order to retain their grips on colonies, or slaughtered up to 15 million Congolese, or earlier, manipulated a famine in Ireland which led to 1 million deaths and 1 million emigrations.
Unless you have information the rest of us don't possess, neither of us knows whether the Ukraine Famine was deliberate or one of incompetence.
Achmelvich is right holocausts and mass murders no no political or religious boundaries - we know for a fact that over 11 million human beings were deliberately put to death under German industrial capitalism - largely exterminated because of their race, ethnic origins, political beliefs or their metal or physical state of health.
Four Communist leaders?
Jim Carroll