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Thread #157801   Message #3727158
Posted By: Jack Blandiver
30-Jul-15 - 06:45 AM
Thread Name: BS: One for the astrophysicist
Subject: RE: BS: One for the astrophysicist
Time Stamp : but can we keep personal notions of God out of it, or it will go tits up. Trying to define "God" gets fekin tedious quick

Just spotted this. All notions of God are subjective, belonging to the realms of superstition, make-believe, folklore, religion, mythology & general bafflement. They offend when believers attempt to make them objective; to make physical reality the subject of a fictional deity when nature needs no such a personage other than in terms of metaphor : even Stephen Hawking persists in his use of the term and in science the Cosmos is often referred to as Creation which I find unfortunate given the associations with fundamentalism & fundamentalist thinking on the whole.

That said, as an Atheist I know exactly what sort of God I don't believe in : Gods of myth and patheistic religion which become the only-too-human monotheistic idiot despotic God of Christian & Abrahamic Tradition. I do not preclude the numinous from the universe, but readily concede that, in human form, I am as likely to have any conception of it as our kitchen slugs have of the Large Hadron Collider. Through science, I feel communion. In the Egyptian Book of the Dead it says Existence is for all Eternity*; someone else said Matter can neither be created or destroyed. The material Cosmos is a wonder that inspires all wonder; in the face of which the human adventure really is only just beginning. Religion is the darkness into which science shines its light.

* Spot the quote folk fans! Actually, it's inscribed in hieroglyphics on the inner bag of Robin Williamson's 1972 solo album Myrrh. Did it make it onto the CD edition? I only have the vinyl, much cherished naturally...