So, anyway, I am always to to use the phrase 'it did not matter who started it. It is who finished it that counts.' I am more than happy to stand by that adage and stop right here and now, Al. How about it? You don't bring it up. I will not respond. Only a handful of people read these things anyway and even those will have forgotten in a day or two. Surely you don't want to continue the same argument on every thread that you get the opportunity to, do you?