Steve, as I hold that the bible and the gospel are true, I am obviously going to communicate that to my kids ( also part of my faith !) , but I suspect with less fervour than you share your faith......of course, you say it ain't faith though, even though you have far from evidenced its truthfulness."

Huh? I thought the gospel was the Bible. Oh well. As for what I've got, think about what you've got. Then think that what you've got is what I have not got. I can't be fervent about what I have not got and it can't be my treasured baby because, well, I haven't got it. Actually, there IS no "it", that's the issue. But clearly I post a lot, so I must be fervent about something. The thing I'm fervent about, pete, is not what I have not got, but about what you have got. I'm fervent about you misusing the thing that you have got. I'm not at all bothered that you've got the thing you've got. That's not my business. I'm bothered about what you do with what you've got, certainly not about what I haven't got, which is what you've got. Got it?