Hi Walkinman, how's this for a true fishing story. Two years ago a friend of mine "Pedro" was ice fishing on Lake Scugog in Ontario. After drilling the hole (with a manual auger) through 14 inches of ice, he baited his short rod with a dead minnow, He then went over to a second hole to set up a tip-up with a live minnow. Glancing around he noticed his rod moving but was too late to prevent it going down the hole. Fortunately he had a spare. anyway about 2 hours later - the same hole he felt something nibbling on his bait, he carefully set the hook and drew the fish out of the hole, a 2.5 lb walleye with his missing rod still attached. I was not there that day but I do believe him.