The problem with these discussions is that if someone like pete says that evolution is false, it lends him a respectability he doesn't deserve if I simply say politely to him that I disagree. It isn't even honest of me. It is not that I disagree, it's that he is ignorantly wrong. The same applies to someone who says he sees God when looking at a starry night. He could just as easily say that it brings to mind the God he believes in. In the first instance I'm likely to say, in undiplomatic mode, no you don't, and don't talk such rubbish. In the second instance I'd be more inclined to tell him instead to contemplate the wonderful science behind those stars, their size, their temperatures, the planets we've found going round some of them, why they don't all look the same, the elements they're made of and how we find out, the way that we are looking into the past when we see them, what they tell us about the origin of the universe, of themselves and of ourselves, why the sky is completely filled with light, and a dozen more wondrous things, a lifetime of enthusiastic delving. Saying you see God is a way of shutting the door on grappling with the marvellous and TRUE reality. And it's quite annoying. It derails rational discussion just as readily as all the squabbling does.