"Well thank you gnome for that hair splitting correction to my faulty use of language. Thanks to you , all those other posters who did,nt know what I meant will understand what I,m getting at..."

Your use of language was faulty, Pete. So faulty, in fact, that it was quite hard to understand what you were "getting at". I would expect a 'distinguished expert' on evolut ... ion ...ism ... errr ... something to express himself more clearly than that!

"Christians have in the past, and sometimes still do , pay with their lives."

Often at the hands of other Christians ... ?

"Belief in God certainly has been held for thousands of years , but probably because it was a presuppositional obvious."

What??!!