Hmm. Let's just pause for a sec and examine this little word "creationist." Tell me this, "Moderate Joe" Offer. Do you believe that God is the creator of the universe and everything therein? If you do, you are a creationist just as much as pete is a creationist. It doesn't really matter how long ago God did it, does it? Two cheeks, same arse!   If you don't, you need to explain what the point of God is. After all, you know he didn't create everything and I know he has nothing to do with the diversity, complexity and beauty of life on Earth, as evolution by natural selection explains all that. Not an awful lot left for God, eh? Unless, of course, you ARE a creationist. Answer without twisting, please. If you like.