I suspect that you are more troubled by the fact that you can't respond to my repeated accusations against religion's causing damage and its dishonesty than you are about the repetitions per se.

I'm not troubled by either. I have responded to all your accusations by giving you my understanding. For example on your comment about 'telling lies to children' we had a long discussion during which I explained why I thought the question was over-simplistic but even on its simple interpretation I - and others - had plenty to say. So while it is true that no one could answer that question to your satisfaction, that is a completely different thing to saying they could not answer the question. And no, I'm not about to go all round the loop again, since as I've also said casting things in terms of 'adversaries' is not a game I want to play. If I can learn something from you or from pete, great. But that's where I draw my line.

As for you repeating yourself in general, I simply find it uninteresting. Say new things and I engage. But when we are well over a thousand and a half posts into a topic, repetitions are unlikely to add anything of value.

And finally an apology to pete. When I said a post or two ago about wasting time talking to pete, that was simply because I was quoting your message. While I profoundly disagree with pete on many things, I rarely find talking to him a waste of time, since it almost always increases my understanding of his viewpoint, however much I disagree with it.