Good heavens Raggy there you go demanding this and demanding that of people while you never provide any of the information or detail when requested by others - what is the party line again for the likes of yourself, the Gnome and your GUEST alter egos? - Oh yes that is it, whatever you say is merely your opinion and that you never have to explain or justify it to anybody. So tell me why does Keith have to justify his opinion that he thinks that you, tacitly agree with the gnome and find the festival in its current format "objectionable" - you have had more than ample opportunity to deny it yet you have remained silent - can't really fault Keith A for holding to his opinion, you haven't really done much (in fact nothing at all) to dissuade him.