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Thread #158525   Message #3751387
Posted By: Jim Carroll
16-Nov-15 - 02:35 PM
Thread Name: BS: Jingoism or Commemoration
Subject: RE: BS: Jingoism or Commemoration
"hat master of complete and utter bollocks Jim Carroll 16 Nov 15 - 11:17 AM"
Must be bollocks if you can dismiss it without even responding to anything said.
You really are an arrogant berk to think anybody takes ay notice of your unqualified dismissals
Are you aware that you always respond in this way when you have no answer.
You really are a creature of habit.
"Harry Patch"
he said he never saw or experienced it, but he almost certainly fought with and spoke to people who did as his statment on it makes crystal clear.
Are you really going to continue trying to make out that last veteran of World War One a liar to peddle your establishment line?
Patche's statement is perfectly in line with the link you have been given describing on-the-spot executions for not going over the top qickly enough - makes mors sense that swallowing the ffici8alk version -as you pair have
Jim Carroll
This is what he said.
"Shell shock
You were in that trench. That was your front line. You had to keep an eye on the German front line. You daren't leave. No. I suppose if you left, and some of them did, they were shot as cowards. That is another thing with shell shock – I never saw anyone with it, never experienced it – but it seemed you stood at the bottom of the ladder and you just could not move. Shellshock took all the nervous power out of you.
An officer would come down and very often shoot them as a coward. That man was no more a coward than you or I. He just could not move. That's shell shock. Towards the end of war they recognised it as an illness. The early part of the war – they didn't. If you were there you were shot. And that was it. And there's a good many men who were shot for cowardice and they are asking now … that verdict be taken away. They were not cowards."