Really appreciate your remarks, McGrath.

Wondering how many people have taken the time to read the lengthy but excellent Atlantic article Joe linked to very early in the thread - unless, of course, one was already quite informed.

Also pondering some remarks - can't recall whose at this point - contrasting 'western society' to Muslims. Because of where I live I don't know a large number of Muslims. Those I do know are very much part of the 'Western Society' in which I live. Granted, I do not live where there are large, recent immigrant enclaves from any part of the globe.