"Jim, on this one you'll be pleased to note you are decidedly wrong"
I do hope so so Steve, but I've got a little tired with a situation where it is virtually impossible to discuss the subject because of people who seem to be arguing that the existing definition is rubbish, but are unable to offer one of their own.
As usual, this discussion has degenerated into one of taste rather than definition - somehow I regard that as a sign of dislike - If I like it, it's folk/traditional.
I've also become tired of scurrilous attacks on old singers because they don't sound like Peter' Paul and Mary, or, in this case Led Zepplin.
Jim Carroll