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Thread #158525   Message #3751831
Posted By: Jim Carroll
18-Nov-15 - 11:05 AM
Thread Name: BS: Jingoism or Commemoration
Subject: RE: BS: Jingoism or Commemoration
Sorry lads - not going round in circles with you clowns any more - we really have been here, done that when you pair ALONE telling us that "'twas a famous victory." (Robert Southey).
Now you're contradicting what you were arguing last time.
You denied it was an Imperial war, Keith went to great lengths to show that 'The Great Imperial War', as it is known, didn't man Imperial in the Imperialist sense, yet now you're digging up quotes like "Britain was prepared to see the rest of Europe turned into some enormous German colony"
If the war was inevitable, it was so because the politicians and industrialists made it so - s.f.a. to do with "freedom" - just a family squabble over which of Victoria's sprogs should rule the planet - over 18 million people died - over territory.
Must be true, Keith's just quoted it - twice.
No argument with that.
The other reasons were down to propaganda - Harry Patch made the point beautifully when he said he had no argument with the lads he was sent out to kill - he had no argument with them - he didn't know them
The same with them, of course.
You want to continue justifying that, feel free - once more you do it alone.
As for the summary - we've got your message - the politicians are great - the military is great (though neither have ever denied the executions happened - just you) - the men who actually fought were lying or gullible shit.
Jim Carroll