"I'll just move all my MacColl into the part of my shelves labelled pop."
Are you really going to walk away from your dishonest cxclaim that I suggested only songs written by MacColl were folk songs - suppose so really - ah well!!
Why move them to "pop"?
As good as they were, with one exception, they weren't popular with anybody but a small number of people otherwise he'd have been able to set up Blackthorn Records way back in the 40s when he wrote Manchester Rambler.
Not only do you have trouble with defining 'tradition' but you seem to be having trouble with 'pop' music now - late night maybe?
The same with the others too - though a couple of them were closer to 'pop' in their approach than they were to folk.
Any sign of that definition yet - having a problem holding my breath?
Jim Carroll